please stop. it's all out of place and tiresome. i'm on this list for information not pointless flaming. spaf, i suggest that you simply ignore him, as i do. -------- In reply to Pat Myrto: NOBODY, and I repeat - NOBODY that contacted me thought the post was at ALL out of place. --------------------- -- paul pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu / pjg@ubvm (ripem public key at keyserver ripem.acsu.buffalo.edu) if the above contains opinions they are mine unless marked otherwise.